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Post by Holland 227 on Nov 6, 2006 20:05:24 GMT -5
Credit to Lord Rahl for these wonderful ratings:
Here the basics of my ratings formula:
Level 1 offense +3 pts for each move- 3 +2 pts for each (ag), (pw) below 3 total +2 pts for each move- 1 below 2 total -2 pts for each (ag), (pw) over 3 total -2pts for each move- 1 over 2 total -1 pt if move -3 is followed by (ag), (pw)
Level 2 offense +2 pts for each move- 3 +2 pts for each Add 1 move -3 pts for each (ag), (pw) -3 pts for each move- 1
Level 3 offense +1 pt for each move-3 +1 pt for each Add 1 move +4 pt for each FINISHER +x pts where x = FINISHER rating (if multiple use average rounded up) -2 pts for each move -2 -2 pts if FINISHER can be missed or may cause DQ
Charts & Dq +1 pt for each A rating +1 pt for each point lower than DQ-5 -1 pt for each C rating -1 pt for each point higher than DQ- 5
Level 1 Defense +1 pt for every 2 dazed- 1's +1 pt for every reversal- 1 +2 pts for every reversal- 2
Level 2 Defense +1 pt for each dazed-1 +2 pts for each reversal-1 +4 pts for each reversal-2 -3 pts for each down-3
Level 3 Defense +2 pts for each dazed-1 +3 pts for each reversal-1 +6 pts for each reversal-2 +2 pts for number of down-3's lower than 2 +2 pts for each point lower than PIN 6(3) -2 pts for number of down-3's higher than 2 -2 pts for each point higher than PIN 6 (3)
(ag), (pw), & cage +2 pts for each (ag) point lower than 0 +2 pts for each (pw) point lower than 0 +1pt for each cage point lower than 4 -2 pts for each (ag) point higher than 0 -2 pts for each (pw) point higher than 0 -1 pt for each cage point higher than 4
Tag ratings When adding up for singles do not add any offensive moves ending with (tag). Only add them when you're adding to see the wrestlers tag rating.(they add up the same as a regular move for point value.) Additional tag modifiers +1 pt for each (tag) on level 1 defense +2 pts for each (tag) on level 2 defense +3 pts for each (tag) on level 3 defense
Example scores: Singles(Tag) Endgame 61(62) US Male 26 (52) Nosfera 38(38)
That's the basics. I'm sure there's more for choice situations that could be put in or different variation for (pw), and (ag) for people who have a -5 and can't be reversed etc. Let me know what you guys think.
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:04:42 GMT -5
Well, I'm going to try to get my butt in gear and put all the listings over here. Here are the LOW'ers. Remember the system was altered a bit by me for them as compared to the rest of the COTG universe so they'll have a different add up then the original formula.
Mil Mascaras 52(55) Nick Bockwinkle 48(52) Rikidozan 48(52) Buddy Rogers 46(47) Bobo Brazil 45(46) Frank Gotch 45(45) Johnny Valentine 44(48) Giant Baba 43(47) Bruiser Brody 43(46) Killer Kowalski 43(46) Harley Race 43(44) George Hackenschmidt 43(43) Agentina Rocca 42(51) Don Leo Jonathan 42(45) Jimmy Snuka 42(45) Hawk 41(54) Antonio Inoki 40(44) The Destroyer 40(44) Don Muraco 40(43) Steve Williams 39(45) Killer Kowalski LE 39(42) Dan Severn 39(39) Hawk LE 38(53) The Crusher 38(42) Larry Zbyzsko 38(42) Masked Superstar 38(42) Animal 37(59) Iron Sheik 37(44) Rick Rude 36(40) Ted Dibiase 36(39) Jim Londos 36(36) The Sheik 36(36) Ted Dibiase-LT 35(41) Ed Lewis 35(35) Animal LE 34(56) Greg Valentine 34(37) Al Costello 33(51) Bobby Eaton 33(47) Sabu 33(36) Ivan Koloff 32(41) Ilio Dipaolo 31(35) Mad Dog Vachon 31(35) King Kong Bundy 31(34) Richard Hutton 31(32) Roy Heffernan 30(47) Jimmy Valiant 30(39) Cowboy Bob Orton 30(37) Diamond Dallas Page 30(34) Ox Baker 30(31) Bob Orton Sr. 29(32) Gorgeous George 39(32) Yukon Eric 29(32) Red Bastien 28(37) Curt Hennig 28(32) Ray Stevens 27(36) Nikolai Volkoff 26(32) Terrible Turk 26(26) Buff Bagwell 25(37) Konnan 25(32) Larry Hennig 25(32) Hacksaw Jim Duggan 25(26) B. Brian Blair 24(44) Brad Armstrong 24(31) Danny Hodge 24(27) v. normal 31(34) v. cr.wt. Missing Link 24(25) Johnny Valiant 24(42) Billy Lyons 23(36) Dennis Condrey 22(34) Justin Credible 22(26) The Sandman 22(25) Steve Corino 22(23) Stan Lane 21(43) Johnny Valiant LE 20(40) Chris Candido 20(27) Bob Armstrong 20(24) Iron Mike Dibiase 20(24) Jim Brunzell 19(34) Boogie Woogie Man 19(23) Buddy Rose 16(25) Butcher Vachon 13(28) Brutus Beefcake 13(23) Koko B. Ware 13(17) Danny Doring 9(13) SD Jones 8(12) Cousin Luke 8(11) Paul Ellering 7(14) Virgil 7(13) Wild Red Berry -9(2) Bobby Heenan -12(-3) Nikita Breznikov -13(-3) Captain Lou Albano -15(-9) Jim Cornette -24(-16)
Sherri Martel 35(38) Ida Mae Martinez 29(36)
Rahl
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Post by neilybob on Jan 5, 2007 10:06:49 GMT -5
good job rahl your'e ok in my book dude.the ratings was a good idea.hopefully people will continue to use it.
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:10:50 GMT -5
EARLY CLASSICS SET K.O. Keller 45 (51) Hechilles 41 (48) Screw 41 (47) Caiman 41 (45) Cosmos 2083 37 (48) +2/+7 from 2079 card Star Warrior 2083 34 (50) +8/+15 from 2079 card Solar Flare 34 (44) Moonstrike 30 (37) Jammer 29 (41) Blood 26 (32) Morpheus 2082 26 (29) -13/-13 from 2079 card Ricken Prince 25 (30) Dragon Fighter 23 (32) Tano 18 (32) Cosmos 2076 18 (24) Trotarus 18 (21) Omega 2083 15 (22) -35/-31 from 2079 card Rama 12 (22) Cordsar 11 (21) Silvar -1 (5)
*Also, Jack Hood from the Genesis book is 39 (39)
CLASSICS 2074 Torin Caelum 45 (46) Blacklash 37 (51) Santon 35 (35) Bullwhip 34 (40) Commander Sam 17 (24) Vortex 7 (26) Torpor 5 (8) Thetis 4 (22)
CLASSICS 2079 Omega 50 (53) Morpheus 39 (42) Cosmos 35 (41) +17/+17 from 2074 card Mangus 33 (33) Parsec 31 (37) Commander Sam 29 (30) +12/+6 Star Warrior 26 (35) Tantalis 19 (31)
CLASSICS 2084 K,O. Keller 37 (43) -8/-8 from EC Card Code Enforcer 37 (37) Vice 33 (34) Big Superstar 31 (31) Commander Krakan 24 (28) Lord Nexus 23 (29) Mimic 21 (21) Montrol 6 (12)
CLASSICS 2086 Wolf 38 (39) Mighty Grogan 35 (36) Salvation 34 (50) Sin 16 (19) Renegade 15 (24) Dark Star Creature 7 (7) Marcel De Sade 6 (6) Natural Man 1 (14)
Big Thanks to Big Bri who did these ratings for me.
Rahl
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:12:09 GMT -5
good job rahl your'e ok in my book dude.the ratings was a good idea.hopefully people will continue to use it. Thanks Neily!! I just hope that they are useful to everyone. Rahl
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:15:00 GMT -5
Here are the first edition and the Invasion years!!
2087 Thantos 52(54) Star Warrior 48(50) Wolf 41(42) Lord Nexus 39(46) Massif 39(40) Exo-King 38 (41) Comrade Terror 36(39) Invincible Krakan 35(38) Massacre 34(41) Actagon 31 (41) Brute 29(38) Proteus 25(32) Commander Sam 25(28) Pit Viper 24(30) Killer Queen 23(29) Renegade 19(24) Executioner 18(21) Ghengis Khan 12 (26) Pulsar 8(17) Vanity 7(13) Mutant 7(8) Beast-Rider 0(13) Death Knight -8(-1) Omega -8(-1)
2088 Bishop Hell 37(38) Battering Ram 35 (38) Incredible Badger 34 (53) Spike 34(41) Mesmer 29(31) Lightening (22) 37 Splatter 21 (25) Man-Mountain 18(19) Billy Jo Boxer 15 (27) Adam Blast 14 (28) The Creeper 7 (11) Reptillo 6 (13)
2089 The Galactic Punisher 40 (43) Bounty Hunter 38(40) The Mad Jester 30 (40) Tongsoon of Cygnus 28(31) EarthQuake 18 (39) Trainer Jim -22(-16) The Royal Overlord -25(-21) Reynard B. Guile -28 (-16)
2090 Star Warrior 52(54) +4/+4 Iron Mane 38(40) Massacre 37 (60) +3/+19 Pulsar Prime 36 (43) +28/+26 Brute 34 (39) +5/+1 Matter 30(43) Krakan, Hitman for Hire 26(26) -9/-12 Anti-Matter 25(32) Terak, the Beast-Rider 19(26) +19/+13 Death Masque 16 (22) +24/+23 Mitsuko, the Mongol 3(22)
Rahl
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:24:10 GMT -5
The WarGames years!!
2091 Matador of M83 46(46) Spike 44 (45) +10/+4 Mayhem 44(44) Lance At-Las 35 (37) Justice 30(37) Whiplash 30(35) +12/+14 Count Necros 28 (30) Tendron 21(23) Mr. Galaxy 18 (22) Vlad Hammer 14 (34) The Serpent UnMan 7(8) +1/-5 The Gaurdsman 1(8)
2092 Chaos 61(61) simple 59(59)using advanced 37(37) when weak Dreadnaught 40(40) +4/+1 Dragon Master 33(39) +7/+9 Darkos, the Deceiver 26(29) Scourge 21(43) Rogue 18(33) Ursa Major -36(-35)
2093 Alpha Force 55(58) Quasar 32(40) Cannibal, the Headhunter 32(34) +13/+10 Chopper Mattock 26(29) +8/-10 Sectarian 24(33) U.S. Patriot 23(32) +6/+4 Vanity 7(10) 0/-3 Black Hole Bart -8/-2 Astro Turk -12(2)
Rahl
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:27:18 GMT -5
The first Sudden Death
2094 Destruction 3000 76(76) Alpha Force SE 53(56) -2/-2 Dreggs 37(49) King Lear 34(36) -4/-5 Soldier of Fortune 33(41) +5/+10 Mace 29(42) Death's Head 25(25) Doomsday Creature 21(21) +14/+13 Ms. Liberty 20(20) Frenzy 3(23) -19/-14 Psycho 3(9) -15/-10
2095 Raven 46(49) Vigilante 34(50) -6/+7 Pegasus 32(33) Fury 25(25) +24/+17 Jack of Diamonds 21(31) Killer Queen 15(22) -8/-7 Cassandra 14(14) Demon 10(31) Thunder 4(10) Hydra 2(25)
Rahl
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Post by neilybob on Jan 5, 2007 10:34:48 GMT -5
good job rahl your'e ok in my book dude.the ratings was a good idea.hopefully people will continue to use it. Thanks Neily!! I just hope that they are useful to everyone. Rahl sure rahly no problem.
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Post by rahl on Jan 5, 2007 10:45:36 GMT -5
So you say you want a Revolution!!
2096 Amazonia 40(41) Janus the Overman 39(42) Vengeance 38(41) Stalker 33(40) Thantos 31(38) -21/-16 Splatter 26(27) +5/+2 Vyper 19(23) Mesmer 15(22) -14/-9 Enigma -1(2)
2097 Holocaust 37(38) US Patriot 31(35) +8/+3 Defender of the Realm 30(33) 0/-7 Skinhead 29(38) Prodigy 24(44) Dynamo 17(29) -1/+7 Gemini 14(29) 0/-5 WildCat 6(12)
2098 Colossus 46(49) Heracles 37(40) Ram 33(36) -2/-2 Killing Machine 33(33) -5/-7 Exo-King 30(37) -4/+1 Star Warrior 29(44) -19/-6 Doomsayer 28(29) Grunge 23(29) Maxine Babe SE 5(11) Marcel de Sade -2(5) -32/-30
Rahl
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Post by Big Bri on Jan 5, 2007 13:47:58 GMT -5
EARLY CLASSICS SET Big Thanks to Big Bri who did these ratings for me. It was my pleasure Rahl.
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Post by El Hijo del Gene on Jan 5, 2007 19:31:19 GMT -5
I kind of like this system.
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Post by hawk on Jan 5, 2007 19:40:56 GMT -5
This is still one of the best things ever done by a fan in the COTG community.
Just going by the ratings, you can get alot of mileage out of this, but using it to judge bootlegs? It's even BETTER, as you can get a feel of how powerful/weak a bootleg is. When you're running a fed like me, where you only want balanced bootlegs, that becomes a huuuge deal.
Once again, thanks Rahl.
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Post by Darth Splatter on Jan 6, 2007 9:22:39 GMT -5
Yes, Pittbull and I have used these ratings exhaustively in our bootleg creation, and I helped out Wildfire a bit on the side as well... I haven't used them for a while now, but it got to the point where I could just look at a bootleg and say "Hmm, Offensively he's a bit too strong...If you Rahl rate him, that's where all his points will come from...He's getting 14 points from his L3O alone..."
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Post by rahl on Jan 6, 2007 10:52:33 GMT -5
Gladiator Civil War baby!!
2099 Colossus SE 50(53) +4/+4 Alpha Force 40(41) -15/-17 Thunder 39(49) +35/+39 Enigma 36(39) +37/+37 Ursa Major 25(34) +61/+69 MetalHead 23(41) Monad 21(27) Draconian Shiek 21(21) Lord Nexus 13(26) -26/-20 Pharoah Khety 9(16) Pollux -34(-33)
2100 Max Shield 45(48) Overkill 43(60) Thrash 40(41) Rising Sun 34(42) Vyper 33(34) +14/+11 Mandrill 32(33) PowerHouse 16(18) -10/-11 Cannibal 12(18) -20/-16 Cycle Hog 10(10) +7/+1 Dreadnaught 9(17) -31/-23
Rahl
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