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Post by tournamentmaster on Dec 5, 2007 21:55:22 GMT -5
Also ake sure that the (tag) is on a move of the same level defense. L2 Defense #1, there is a dazed - 1 (tag). You should move the (tag) to one of the hurt - 2 moves on Level 2 Defense.
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Post by rickert on Dec 5, 2007 22:37:32 GMT -5
That was a good catch on one that's actually in the rules and I forgot. Thanks.
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Post by Nothing on Dec 6, 2007 8:12:48 GMT -5
Looks good Rickert. I'm just curious why you gave her a down-3 on L2 Defense?
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Post by rickert on Dec 6, 2007 9:03:39 GMT -5
Because in matches I've seen she does go down frequently. Down but not out, so I went with a tough PIN rating and put the down-3 on level 2 defense.
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Post by tx on Dec 6, 2007 21:40:22 GMT -5
I'd probably nick her power down to -3. Even with the conversion chart, that puts her as powerful as a lot of the guys in LOW. -3 wouldn't be too bad though.
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Post by rickert on Dec 6, 2007 23:03:13 GMT -5
I'd probably nick her power down to -3. Even with the conversion chart, that puts her as powerful as a lot of the guys in LOW. -3 wouldn't be too bad though. Have you seen the video of her doing a fireman's carry with two cruiseweights on her shoulders? By all means nick her down to -3 if it suits you better, but my version will stay at -4. She is strong than some men in pro wrestling.
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Post by tx on Dec 7, 2007 7:38:39 GMT -5
Harley Race BODY SLAMMED Andre and has a -2 If Beth could do that, then I'll go with -4 Until then...forget it.
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Post by LWF fan Trav on Dec 7, 2007 7:43:28 GMT -5
Harley Race BODY SLAMMED Andre and has a -2 Bah, that's a myth! It's not like there were pictures or anything to prove that!!! Vince said it didn't happen, so it didn't happen!!! ;D
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Post by tx on Dec 7, 2007 7:50:22 GMT -5
BTW, fireman's carry is a very simple way to lift people. You're only holding about a 1/4 of their weight on you when you do it.
I suppose my real problem is.....she's no Amazing Kong in strength and if you put Beth at -4, then Kong has to be -5......and no Legends offical wrestler (and only the Andre bootleg otherwise) has such power.
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Post by Graymar on Dec 7, 2007 8:56:27 GMT -5
BTW, fireman's carry is a very simple way to lift people. You're only holding about a 1/4 of their weight on you when you do it. I think you are right that you are probably LIFTING only about 1/4 of the weight...but you are still CARRYING/HOLDING the full weight depending on what move you execute after you have them up. Graymar
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Post by tx on Dec 7, 2007 12:13:51 GMT -5
It's not that I'm arguing that she isn't strong....(heck at -3 strength there would still be no woman who matches her power) but that she's not quite that upper echelon of strength.
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Post by Holland 227 on Dec 7, 2007 12:47:54 GMT -5
I just think that she needs toned down a bit. She is on the level of some of the top guys in the game and I don't think Beth Phoenix beats Snuka, Hawk, Race, Bockwinkel
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Post by tx on Dec 7, 2007 13:00:31 GMT -5
I don't think she beats Trish Stratus, Fabulous Moolah, etc. I know it's fun to make your favorite wrestlers as strogn as possible but you don't really have that luxury in Legends.
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Post by Holland 227 on Dec 7, 2007 13:01:45 GMT -5
True but its up to you promoter!!
But as for me I like to level my cards out to meet the standards. My 4 new bootlegs are in the 30-37 rating range of Rahl's ratings which I feel is a solid way to rate cards!
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Post by rickert on Dec 7, 2007 18:37:14 GMT -5
BTW, fireman's carry is a very simple way to lift people. You're only holding about a 1/4 of their weight on you when you do it. I suppose my real problem is.....she's no Amazing Kong in strength and if you put Beth at -4, then Kong has to be -5......and no Legends offical wrestler (and only the Andre bootleg otherwise) has such power. But she didn't just lift them or hold them. She carted them nearly halfway across the ring before depositing them on the mat.
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